Dr. Shathley Q: Tales of Woe, full gchat
A little while back, I had a long g-chat with Dr. Shathley Q, who was looking at Woe for Popmatters. Always thought it'd be fun to throw up the whole winding thing. Sitting here going over the new website one last time (before I post it), and well, why not. Here it is. Something like 5/23/10:
swordschool: hi is it John?
me: Hi
It's me
Shathley?
swordschool: excellent
yes Sir
me: You know, I chat all the time
but it is amazing
you're in australia?
swordschool: south africa
me: holy moly
my favorite old girlfriend is there
swordschool: actually I'm just back from a trip to Japan
me: I envy all of it
or
envy
isn't the right word
swordschool: lol my gf's with me
me: I'm enjoying vicariously
mine was too crazy
but she was dynamite
and a red head
swordschool: aww man
red heads
me: yep
curly red
sort of brown red
swordschool: if only there were some kind of league for red heads
red-headed men particularly
me: some semblance of sanity
I like them all
swordschool: it'd be like an old timey sherlock holmes story
me: a couple of years ago I realized I liked them all
a league for red heads
it does hav a marvel comics feel
swordschool: i just read a holmes versus zombies comic
me: where in south africa
really, holmes vs zombies?
swordschool: it was honestly so bad i want my time back
me: what is there to investigate?
swordschool: im in capetown
me: I think my old girlfriend is around there too
she has a bunch of women knitting blankets
swordschool: we decided on capetown really cos of the beaches
me: sounds amazing
the city is in a good time of year
here
hot
swordschool: oh its that aids charity thing? the quilts?
me: but everyone is laughing
yep
that's her
laura
swordschool: yeah my goto charity would really be malaria nets
me: they need those too?
swordschool: im sure they must
someone must
me: oh, yes
years ago, I was trying to get a tv show
swordschool: plus its a darwinian thing
the mosquitoes must die
tv show yeah?
me: we were planning to go to far away countries and do things like distribute malaria nets and build wells
swordschool: oh this sounds great
me: we got some development money
yeah
swordschool: but is there a market for this kind of thing?
me: then they decided angelina jolie had already done it
swordschool: right
it would rely on star power
me: she'd already done the good for humanity thing
ours was more reality show
we were going to take a few assholes with us
swordschool: like the crew from Bam's show
me: righto
swordschool: i dig those assholes
me: so, I'm looking at a stack of labels
bringing them up to mtv tomorrow
the books are in
swordschool: :]
me: they should be in envelopes in the mail room tomorrow
I'm doing this National Book Critics Circle thing
swordschool: let me ask you about that
me: so my office is full of really conservative books
swordschool: like Great Shark Hunt ;]
me: and here I have woe, which looks like it's from the moon
well
I looked up and saw "Parisians" from Norton
Or The Surrendered by Chang-Rae Lee
swordschool: oh oh well
me: Books my wife would admire
swordschool: that feel a little surreal? like you're outta place?
me: and here she is, married to the author of Tales of Woe.
swordschool: you're talking about this now, and I'm really put in the mind
of some of the lines from Last Words
me: ?
swordschool: Burroughs' final memoirs
me: oh, yes
swordschool: i use the term 'some lines' loosely
i don't actually have the lines
me: we could find them
swordschool: but its the part WSB goes on about
his acceptance into the Academy
when as a young writer he was rebuffed
I'll go find it immediately after (these lines)
me: I'll be curious
swordschool: I'll fwd them
me: ok
swordschool: but my question is
since i think this is an easy way in
whats it feel like
me: I like all this preamble
we should keep it
swordschool: physically having Tales
against the backdrop of High Letters?
i'm scrolling up to read your words
'really conservative books' you called them
yeah this was a great preamble
you're a great subject btw
me: the physical book, in terms of th canon?
Oh, thanks, I'll try to make a total ass of myself
swordschool: lol
well the physical copies of Tales
me: I feel like woe is something that an alien put in my hands, and commanded me to take credit for
swordschool: against the backdrop of the officeful of 'really conservative books'
swordschool did not receive your chat.
swordschool: interesting play on words there
me: asking me how it looks physically compared to these books?
swordschool: no no
just the psychological/emotional yield
me: content?
swordschool: you experience
me: ah
well
swordschool: when those two systems confront each other in the same space
me: I don't want to denigrate books I admire
but sometimes a book feels alive
and woe feels alive to me
maybe contagious
but alive
maybe that's always the author's feel of their own book
swordschool: nice
me: Woe really happened because of a plateful of garlic, I think
which may be a better way to say it
swordschool: ok there's a story
me: how many books have that going for them?
swordschool: can i hear that?
me: I was sitting with my editor, Jacob Hoye
who was my editor at Delacorte
and I was tossing out ideas, as I do
and meanwhile, he asked the waiter
—we were at some fancy publishing restaurant—to bring him a sideorder of grilled garlic cloves
which is something they did as a garnish
so the waiter said yes
and i'm tossing out ideas
swordschool: what just the raw garlic?
me: and then I get to Tales of woe
grilled
grilled garlic
swordschool: k
me: phenomenal
and I get to Woe, and give him the notion
true stories that just get worse
and the waiter sets a huge plate in front of him, with maybe fifty cloves of grilled garlic
and Jacob looks down, and says, "Now that's a book!"
swordschool: :]
that's a really great story
me: it made sense for him
he likes to do books with a lot of design
at mtv press
I'd previously done a book with mtv books
swordschool: btw, that's the title for this piece
Things Will Be Worse Now
me: which is also jacob, but a diff venue
lovely
swordschool: so... let me get to the next question in this way
me: k
swordschool: do you anticipate the post-launch response much?
of your books of course
me: well, at a reading for woe, I did have one heckler
I always hope they hate it so much I sell a million of them
swordschool: :]
me: I thin that anticipation part is now built-in
built in to the writing
swordschool: ok... so it's an active part of the process
?
me: yes
this is the first book I've had so much involvement with, in terms of the whole package
jacob has a brilliant design sense
what we wanted: a reading and design experience that worked together
a lot of small presses are doing an excellent job of that, by the way
swordschool: yeah i want to get into that a bit
me: I don't expect woe is for everyone
so far, the people who want nothing to do with it have told me they won't be looking at it, which is fine with me
a perfect iteration of capitalism and freedom of speec
swordschool: so no more picket lines with dozens of folks waving signs that read "Leave It To The Beavers?"
i jest of course
me: well
if they burn the book
they'll have to buy it
I'd rather they burned it
swordschool: that's really the thing itsn't it
me: a waste of resources, of course
but woe is all about wasting resources
the paper isn't really black
swordschool: it's the opposite of what happened in China
not printing the book
me: the white pages are inked, twice, to give white letters in negative space
right
swordschool: but I'll be getting into that
me: all the fuel shipping the book from china
Jacob is around too
swordschool: I don't know if you've ever seen that Penn & Teller constitution burning trick
but that gets me everytime
me: what is it?
they burn it, get arrested, produce it unburned?
swordschool: yeah kinda
minus the arrested part
me: oh, well they should ad that
maybe there should be a police shooting
in the middle
we were all really surprised
swordschool: but Penn's got a really stirring speech on what it means to have the freedom to burn the document
me: oh
swordschool: lol
me: he is good
yeah
all my publisher pals seem unconcerned
swordschool: the final piece is them doing the trick with acetate
so you can see the 'magic'
unconcerned at the the swallowing up of freedom of expression?
me: but to me, that we're now heeled by Chinese Decency lawas, whatever the fuck those are, that's pretty scary.
swordschool: yeah that's the second feature we're doing
me: part of what's changed about comics and graphic novels
swordschool: the moral of the story is freedom of expression internationally is now a matter of national security
me: is the erosion of the comics code
publishers don't get everything filtered, and don't need to
manga and undergound comix did that for us
swordschool: yeah it still gets to me that DC proudly announce that this book is CCA approved
me: I wouldn't say we're back to a pre-code era
but woe is meant to pick something up, something that we've lost
the kind of hybrid magazines, art and text, that were destroyed by the comic code
that's kind of our future
swordschool: i like that
i really do
it's what seth llyod mention in his Computing The Universe
the future as the mastery of the past
me: the further you go back, into the nineteenth century, all the way to the illuminated manuscript, the more you'll see a presumed integration of art and text.
swordschool: it's kinda what ron mallet's book Time Traveller (in which he defines the science of time travel) is all about
me: finally, we have the software to duplicate the human hand, a quill, and a page
or, not duplicate, rival
swordschool: let me ask you about that, the i'd like to double back a bit
me: ok
swordschool: do you think there's something redemptive about the book itself
me: huh
swordschool: that a book can over turn a status quo
me: well the whole point is to deny redemption
but I guess you're right
swordschool: sorry about the redemptive
ive had a day of prepping a daredevil piece
i meant revolutionary
me: well
my ego nods at revolutionary
pathetic
in woe
hmm, how to say this best
I wanted to strip woe of the western "story"
which is a religious story
sin, suffering, redemption
but also a political story
that story is built into news, into entertainment, into advertising, into everything
the notion that people who suffer are suffering for a reason, or that their suffering, in the end, will somehow be for the best
in my experience of life, not true
but that narrative is worse than not true
it's what allows us to ignore or discount the suffering of other people
so and so deserved it, it's for the common good
that kind of logic allows for monumental evil
isn't it Colonialism in a nutshell?
swordschool: :]
that was magnificent to read
me: shucks
swordschool: when i read snowball's chance
me: now I'm tempted to make a smiley face
:}
swordschool: to be honest when i reread it i was jetlagged
me: haha
perfect time to read
swordschool: but when i read it
the idea that kept trying to hammer its way out was
90% of ppl arent going to get it
but this guy's derrida
and you're reading on grammatology again
me: I'd take a 10% sales rate
it's funny you mention that book
I went to CU for my mfa because there was this famous professor who had a course on derrida
and I was really excited to take his class, and I read that book
and now I not only don't remember anything that I read
I don't even remember sitting in the room
I told that story to jacob, and he told me, "we have to forget that stuff."
swordschool: :]
me: when I was reading all the philosophy, I was writing terrible stuff
I don't think he meant that we forget it, as in lose the meaning, I think he meant forget it, as in, take it for granted
the other night
I went out to martinis with this marvelous publicist from the feminist press
and we've formulating a hit list
swordschool: oh yeah?
me: for when publishing dies
yeah
so everyone will have something to do
you know
writers are pretty bitter anyway
can't take too much to get them to marblehead with an uzi
swordschool: lol
me: in the movies, the arms dealers are always from South Africa
are you an arms dealer?
swordschool: well i can neither confirm
well you know the rest
me: good answer
we'll be in touch
swordschool: what was Colorado like btw
just as an aside
me: ?
swordschool: college?
me: hampshire
of Columbia
grad school
oh
swordschool: right
me: I meant
I'd love to go to colorado
swordschool did not receive your chat.
me: but I worry it's too hilly to take my bike everywhere
swordschool did not receive your chat.
swordschool did not receive your chat.
me: I meant
I'd love to go to colorado
swordschool did not receive your chat.
me: but I worry it's too hilly to take my bike everywhere
swordschool: its Freak Power country
me: it would be great
sit around and forget how screwed up everything is
swordschool: I'd be scared the ghost of the Good Doctor would come find me
me: plant radishes and live on wind power
swordschool: lol
radishes
me: well
swordschool: that's that vegetable thing right?
me: what vegetable thing?
swordschool: apparently there're these things called 'vegetables'
me: oh
yeah
they're like fruits, but not as good
swordschool: yeah whats up with that
me: they keep longer
swordschool: i gotta say tho
since we got here
to capetown
me: is it amazing?
swordschool: the fruit is amazin
me: aw
swordschool: amazing!!!
me: sounds divine
swordschool: triple exclamation point
me: sit around all day eating fruit
amazing
I bet there's some new and exciting fruit, too
swordschool: i had a strawberry omelette for the first time here
me: cripes
swordschool: which is i promise
really far better than it sounds
me: sounds good to me
swordschool: i got two questions outta that last round
ones a postmodern one
me: ok
swordschool: and ones an enlightenment one
me: ah
ok
swordschool: here's the PM one
working with Jacob
having a book where the artwork is integral
do you feel its a step in the right direction for your creative process?
me: Oh, I have have to shout out to Walter Einenkel, on the book design
swordschool: nods
me: hmm, I like the possibilities
but I don't see art as a mandate
I did get some art in All The World's a Grave
it doesn't look like much work
swordschool: actually could I ambush you with a sidebar here?
me: but the twelve or so images in there, from nineteenth century shakespeare illustrations, were actually heavily phtoshopped
ok
swordschool: between All the World's and Snowball's
I reckon you're mischaracterized
your work is at least
as satire
me: oh
yeah
as I said
swordschool: for me satire's really an episode of Ugly Americans
or South Park
a kinda here-to-go thing
me: I'd rather just be an asshole
swordschool: lol
i can't print it like that tho
me: no?
yeah
I don't mind satire
did you see shitty mickey?
swordschool: nah we're selling the idea of you
me: shittymickey.com
that's satire
we're working on a new season
one of my artists from woe is illustrating
swordschool: ok excellent
me: michelle witchipoo
mickey mouse
on drugs and palin
swordschool: yeah palin
me: she got a boob job
swordschool: i grumble a lot
yeah?
im so outta touch with politics
honestly
me: whenever I begin to lose interest
she does something
swordschool: there's an upside and a downside to that
me: gets a boob job
and then, this is what's so great, she doesn't play it cool, she runs outside in a tight white tshirt
i'm voting for her
swordschool: the last i wanted to hear of her was with the you're pimping my daughter dave thing last year
me: i'm writing her in
swordschool: wait that wasnt quite the thing
but who can tell with letterman
me: she's the armageddon
how can you turn that down?
swordschool: i've always suspected i'd win armageddon
me: yeah
swordschool: i read the bible wrong
me: I have all this art I'm planning to steal
swordschool: just completely got off on the wrong foot
me: ok
swordschool: as a kid we were told the story of revelation
which is why again that was told to 8yr olds?
me: which relates to time travel
swordschool: but there you go
me: the end of time
swordschool: and i was rooting for the wrong guy
hey that was a clever reference
me: that can happen
swordschool: end of time
there was this guy who was making all the deals
then he summoned this hidden beast
me: don't want to be reading resurrection, rooting for the underdog
swordschool: from the water
then wait... what now?!
then jesus fights him
me: you're onto something
swordschool: my folks got asked to never bring me back to sunday school again
cos i asked
me: give me a name for the hitlist
swordschool: 'scuse me... why'd jesus end up fighting him... did jesus go evil?'
me: haha
swordschool: then i realize the guy i was rooting for was actually the 'antichrist'
which i thought was aunty christ
fun times
me: oh, nice
yep
luckily
swordschool: here's the enlightenment question
me: none of those dipshits will be in hell
ok
swordschool: oh now im really laffing out loud
books were always at war with libraries
me: can you imagine wanting to go to a party they were invited to?
swordschool: oh man
it would be martinis and feminist press hitlists
wouldnt be
me: righto
swordschool: damned monkey fingers
me: it's be dixie ups and cake from a mix
cups
and coors, my friend
if you were lucky
swordschool: lol
me: ok
swordschool: ok books vs. libs
me: books libraries
swordschool: the real threat of gutenberg was the popularization of knowledge
of learning
books are pretty much as close to a 17th century flash-drive as you can get
libraries on the other hand
theyre all about churchly power
me: huh
swordschool: well churchly culture
monks were skilled labrorers
or laborers as some ppl say
storing knowledge and distributing knowledge
they were two very different things Back When
me: I hadn't put all that togehter
swordschool: ok
if that's something you can buy into
do you see Woe as disrupting that stored knowledge system
me: oh
well, I am trying to disrupt the history, yes
swordschool: in other words... Woe's gonna make demands on you as a reader aint it
me: I hadn't related the church to libraries, but you're right about that
and the bog booksellers have taken much of that structure on
including some of the religious underpinnings
well
I was really afraid woe would be hard to read. physically difficult, white text on black page
but it's not, so that's a relief
and I also assumed that it would be impossible to read through in one sitting
that a reader would pick up the book and read a story, and then another later, like an old story book
swordschool: nice
me: but people have read it all the way through
I was shocked
but they were like, no problem
I did attempt to keep the prose super simple
swordschool: that's how i read orhan pamuk's My Name Is Red
me: so simple that it was almost a parody of journalism
I enjoy reading books in that way
I've been reading, how is his name spelled, echart tolle, that way
swordschool: i dunno about journalism
i got a roald dahl vibe from it
switch bitch
kiss kiss
his adult stuff
me: that makes sense
I was thinking journalist humor
gallows humor
swordschool: nice
now im thinking dave barry
that churches versus books btw... that's the final chapter from my doctoral disstertation
me: well, incredibly interesting
and not a discussion I've heard
swordschool: it ends up fingerwagging about the importance of wally wood's 32 Panels That Always Work
yeah i thought that would be it
me: haha
swordschool: i'd either pass or fail on that one chapter
so part of the initial email MTV sent out
bills Woe as a return to the original greek catharsis
me: yes
swordschool: you think the Greeks got it right? or
or
ok
me: I think they were less full of shit than we are
swordschool: man i gots to tell you something
i did one of those meet-a-shaman tours in brazil
me: and by the way, the contemporary interpretation of Greek catharsis proves how full of shit we are
swordschool: the happily ever after catharsis?
me: they have a cure for zombies
right
that had nothing to do with aristotle
I can't tell you how often I've had someone tell me that aristotle said to do this or that
and aristotle never said anything even close to what they're saying
swordschool: i reckon its as close to dammit as began with Freud
me: probably the least read and most cited 15 pages in the hostory of writing. the poetics
swordschool: Freud was really the Quentin Tarantino of his day
me: it was the coke
swordschool: oh yeah The Poetics
i had a student stop me after a lecture
she reckoned i was misreading Poetics
me: oh?
swordschool: cos she'd read on wikipedia
thats really when my brain shut down
me: aha
well
I read on wikipedia that pop art
in an entirely British development
swordschool: lol
i read that in Greil Marcus
ok im kidding at that one
me: haha
Sent at 3:18 PM on Wednesday
me: catharsis in woe is the greek version: you watch people suffer and go home feeling better. very hard to read these stories, or to write them for that matter, and not be thankful for what you have/
swordschool: thats from the blurb?
me: is that what it says on there
?
something like that
it made me a better person
swordschool: yeah that was the bit i was refering to
me: working on these stories
swordschool: yeah?
me: yeah
very tough to take my petty self seriously while working on a story about a child whose brain was eaten by a baboon
swordschool: yeah that second story was the 'no return' point for me
no that i couldn't go back
but that i didn't want to
me: yeah, I had the animal artist work on that one
what a baboon
Rotwe
swordschool: i got to the same point in joe hill's horns about half way in
me: Patrick McQuade
he's good at everything, but what animals
swordschool: i get a very visceral reaction to the art
like in some senses you or jacob or walter
spent months getting to a decision on which artist for what
what was that process like?
finding artists
me: yeah
we looked at, I'm guessing, about 3000 artists
swordschool: i like the care in that
me: I knew one of them previously
oh, Patrick, actually
swordschool: and i mean this as a genuine compliment
but its like the music from my early childhood
me: we wanted art that was "Woe" that could somehow communicate total hopelessness
swordschool: the Doors and Led Zep and Jimi... it's that same kind of blend
me: but we also wanted to do that old pulp thing
get a great monster guy for the monsters
a great pin-up artist for the pin-ups
etc
swordschool: :]
i really like that
me: TWO SARAH PALIN PINUPS
swordschool: theres a sense of composition that emerges
now im imagining sarah clones
me: yeah
I'd do a whole book of her pinups
swordschool: what if tina fey
and sarah
and that woman from that eminem video met in a single white room
and the joker
me: who
swordschool: played by bob dylan
me: Dido?
swordschool: nah
much much later
me: I dunno
Dido, Palin, Faye
that
that's a threesome
swordschool: oh no
me: that's a book
swordschool: i can't unimagine that
i knew i should showed up that day in school when we had to kill our creativity
btw
me: well
that phd might help
swordschool: you reckon Woe is the beginning of wide-scale change?
me: don't despond
in what?
in the world?
in me?
swordschool: publishing
me: oh
I think it's indicative of something that's happening
design will increasingly play a role
the book as object
printing is more manageable, as is the design software
people think with images and text. they''re accustomed to that now
I think it's inevitable, and well underway
swordschool: ad astra per aspera
me: there was a book I adored, a few years ago, well ahead of its time
Marc Estrin's The Nose
Sent at 3:33 PM on Wednesday
me: I'd already sold woe then, but that title had me smelling the roses
swordschool: :]
how long was the process btw
me: well
swordschool: from pitching over garlic
me: hmm
quite a while
swordschool: till today
me: the book was delayed by the financial crisis
by about a year
swordschool: sure
me: very expensive to print
and jacob, wisely
slowed down our timetable
also
the design took a long, long time
and influenced the text
there was more satire, which we took out
also, I researched for fifty stories
I found fifty
but then they were turning out longer than I'd anticipated
and then, they were so depressing to work on, I had to take breaks
swordschool: of course
me: maybe 2.5 years
but a long 2.5 years
everything about the book fought back
swordschool: was that emotionally taxing
me: printing a pdf cost 100 bucks in ink
black paper
swordschool: the immersion in the catharsis?
me: I felt like my eyeballs were getting sucked out
I'd traipse home in a zen-like state of gratitude
to be done for the day
to have happy, healthy children
to have all my limbs
swordschool: I'm gonna wanna put that near the front
me: Ok
I like this whole, unwieldy conversation exactly as is
just a thought
swordschool: :]
i've very little problem with that
me: I like how you're story comes out, too
swordschool: but i do need to do the features from these interviews
me: oops, your
swordschool: yeah my story's like that
the friendly monster
hops out the closet
does its thing
goes back, by way of under the bed
me: funny how, with age, monsters are our last friends
swordschool: there's a line in the Tao Te Ching exactly about that
me: ?
swordschool: chapter 60: Demons
Lao Tzu's book on taoism
me: can we find it?
swordschool: urm one sec
http://taoteching.org/chapters/60.htm
me: amazing
swordschool: basically it's 'when faced with your demons, clothe them and feed them'
yeah
the tao te ching is what isn't for public consumption
the i ching is
i ching's also based on a binary system
tao te ching's ternary
and its funny how computers are binaried
and genes are ternaried
me: really interesting
in the last few days, I've had the ttc cited three or four times
swordschool: ha
thats what we in the Biz refer to as
a clue
me: yeah
swordschool: ok
one last question my side
oh
me: ok
swordschool: just an aside
i do that to have a conversation
letting in parts of my story
the first time i did an interview
it was the worst thing ever
me: who said that the all of writing is digression?
swordschool: i asked exactly the fanboy questions
now that is on the tip of my tongue
me: Ray Bradbury?
swordschool: yeah
me: Digression is the soul of wit
swordschool: altho Unkle Google also suggested Laurence Sterne
me: I just found it
oh, that's actually what I was thinking of
swordschool: weird
me: very similar quote
the soul of reading
swordschool: my last questions pretty simple
me: k
swordschool: whats your profile pic for your gtalk?
me: oh
it's a painting
hold up
I can't see it
swordschool: yeah
yeah i cant either
i thought it was the death of leonardo for a second there
me: oh
swordschool: but its not
me: it's an image I came across for All the World
swordschool: oh i just snagged a bigger version
i'll source it
let me give you an opportunity
did we miss out on/gloss over anything
me: I think you got all
swordschool: just like freddie mercury from queen
excellent
this was
honestly John
me: thanks so much
swordschool: a mindblowing conversation
me: I'm going to go find that painting
terrific
martinis in new york
or capetown
swordschool: oh
on that point
i'm back stateside in november/december
me: ok
swordschool: would you be available for a follow-up
me: oh wait
swordschool: it wouldn't be anywhere near as long
me: I may have the image
oops, no
ok, will email
oh, yes, of course
swordschool: theres a defined PopMatters format called 20 questions
but i reckon it might be good to meet in person
me: ok
swordschool: if your up for it of course
me: ok
whatever you need
swordschool: great
again, let me thank you for your time
me: thank you
swordschool: alright then
i can't tell you how excited i am to get the book.
me: on the way
tomorrow
swordschool: nerd prom moment
me: got the painting
swordschool: yeah?
me: the title "dispute"
Fuseli
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.alanhoward.org.uk/dispute.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.alanhoward.org.uk/spell.htm&usg=__SK-ygN2gI5XASqRxPZjcy8zF-IM=&h=682&w=507&sz=50&hl=en&start=0&tbnid=jTypplsZWRUnlM:&tbnh=160&tbnw=131&prev=/images%3Fq%3D%2522dispute%2522%2Bpainting%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dsafari%26rls%3Den%26biw%3D1518%26bih%3D970%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=1286&vpy=224&dur=1208&hovh=260&hovw=193&tx=134&ty=89&ei=h1JHTPHKIcG88gbb1oyOAw&page=1&ndsp=35&ved=1t:429,r:13,s:0&biw=1518&bih=970
swordschool: ok got it
me: haha
lates
swordschool: bcnu